And if they conclude, for a dozen different reasons, that we are a stronger campaign - and by the way, this is not just talking off the top of my head, virtually every poll that's out there, as you know, shows that Bernie Sanders is better against Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton because nobody gets other Republican candidates. SANDERS: And those people have a right to rethink the decision that they made. SANDERS: - or pledged to come on board her campaign before I even announced my candidacy. Hundreds and hundreds of super delegates, parts of the Democratic establishment, voted for Hillary Clinton. SANDERS: Look, you also - let's talk about principles. HAYES: - in the sense of you want the person who got the most votes to be the nominee. HAYES: I mean the - the principle is Democrat control of the Democratic Party. But - but there's also a principal aspect to it. SANDERS: My response is then let's now talk about process all afternoon. HAYES: Let me ask you about that because.and I - I sort of share your feeling about process, frankly. And I think that most of - most Democrats out there, more than anything - correctly so - want to make sure that some right-wing Republican doesn't become president of the United States. But I think we are going to make the case, also, that if you look at the polling and if you look at reality, I believe - and I'm not the only one who believes this - that we are the stronger campaign in taking on Donald Trump or any other Republican candidate. Now, at the end of the process, you know, frankly, if we are behind in the pledged delegates, I think it's very hard for us to win. ![]() And I'm very proud of the - the fact that we have had to do that. What this campaign is about is bringing millions of people into the political process. What this campaign is about is transforming the United States of America. Now, I know the media has got into all of the process issues. ![]() HAYES: On the 14th, um, do you agree that the person who's won the most pledged delegates and the most votes is going to be the nominee of the Democratic Party? HAYES: But you would agree that she's won more? SANDERS: By the way, that's not quite accurate, because I think a lot of the votes cast in the caucus states have not been counted and we've won some of those states by 70 percent. Right now, you're at 45 percent of pledged delegates, Secretary Clinton is at 55 percent. HAYES: As of the 14th, everyone will have voted. It's the California and some other states. HAYES: The primary calendar, uh, June 7th is a big date. I think if the turnout is high, if - if working people come out in large numbers, if young people come out, I think the message, Chris, that we are bringing forth, that it's too late for establishment politics, that it is insane that today, almost all new income and wealth has gone to the top 1 percent, that we are the only major country on Earth not to guarantee paid family and medical leave, not to guarantee health care to all people, that is a message resonating in Pennsylvania, it's resonating in Connecticut, it's resonating all over this country. They're not the Plains States, where you had some real good wins. ![]() They're not the deep South, where you had a hard time. Those five states are - are Northeastern, Eastern Seaboard states. ĭoes this - does this happen everywhere, like when you go to get coffee now or is that. It's my great pleasure to welcome senator of Vermont, Bernie Sanders. And one of the reasons they would have lost money is the man I can introduce right now. And if you took bets when it began on who the last five would be, a lot of people would have lost money. And when this whole campaign began, there were more than 20 candidates in the race. HAYES: Welcome to the National Constitution Center here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, one of five states that will be voting tomorrow.
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